It’s a grave misconception that because someone is gay that they should support any and everything that is gay. I have my own personal opinions on the matter. I do believe in basic equal rights of any human being whether gay or straight should be mandatory for everyone. I do have a personal opinion about transsexuality. I believe we are born who we are I do not believe this trap in the wrong body stuff. I think its mental problem. On that note I would not isolate or make these people feel unwanted. I respect everyone but I do not respect everyone’s choices; then again it is their choice. Not everything that is gay means or what they think is a sexuality issue that I am obligated to support them. So I stand by my comment, “I believe in a man and a woman nothing in between”. People need to just accept themselves and not try to change their body to fit something that is obviously a psychological problem. I want to say I have no hatred for these people who need help in my opinion. This is just my view on the matter. Finally, I make no apologies for my position and I respect the positions for my other Blogging family.
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I have to disagree with you again, Mr. Stone.
I've never witnessed this suppossed misconception that just because you're gay you have to support everything gay. So many of us, yourself included, have spoken up about problems that are NOT supported by the gay community ABOUT the gay community! So that in itself negates your first assertion.
" I believe we are born who we are I do not believe this trap in the wrong body stuff. I think its mental sickness"
Like Larry said earlier, it hurts me to see my supposed partners in the struggle succumb to these bigoted mentalities. What gives you the authority to deem someone mentally ill. RuPaul, an accomplished actor/singer/talk show host/writer/etc. is mentally ill? There are so many intelligent, insightful, and BEAUTIFUL transgender people, it really makes me ill to hear anyone, especially a GAY person, make such a statement.
" Not everything that is a gay means that I am obligated to support them."
Not all transgender people are gay.
". So I stand by my comment, “I believe in a man and a woman nothing in between”."
So, by that logic, when you fuck a man in the ass, you are confirming that you are a mentally ill individual. I just don't understand it.
"People need to just accept themselves and not try to change their body to fit something that is obviously a psychological problem."
So do you need to go through an ex-gay program and become a heterosexual? Lots of people think we have a psychological problem as well.
Who are we to say what people need to do with their bodies? Who are we to say what people should accept for themselves? YOU do not know what goes on in their minds, just like straight people oftentimes don't know what goes on in ours. The difference is whether we allow that natural ignorance hinder us and makes us bigots, or whether we use it as an opportunity to learn and love others.
So, no, I wholeheartedly disagree with your assertion that it is "obviously" a psychological problem.
We all have the right to think or to be believe whatever we choose too. I respect your views on this matter. I also respectfully disagree with you.
I am disappointed that you are deflecting the issue. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but I think the MAJOR assertions you made on Clay, mine, and your blog need to be backed up.
You CANNOT just call a whole group of people mentally ill without FACTS or something besides a silly whim to back it up. To do so is irresponsible not only to the gay community but to all of society, because, as bloggers, we all have to take responsibility for what we put out there!
This is an interesting discussion. I'm intrigued. You respect their choice yet you call them mentally ill. I have known transgendered people who were saner than me. And don't you dare call me crazy! lol... I believe you have to do a little more than respect their right, you need to celebrate it. It's the same right that allows you to be who you choose.
My question to you is, what about children who are born with both sets of genitals? This is not a completely uncommon occurrence. Hell! They did an episode about it on Law and Order.
Are those children born mentally ill or are they made mentally ill by a society that forces them into a gender role. And what of overly-effeminate boys and hyper-masculine girls... are they mentally ill too?
And please know that I do respect your opinion. I'm just trying to get some clarity around your reasoning.
Some people might think that because you are gay that that is a psychological issue. Is that true for you? Do you believe that you have a psychological issue? If you do then your statements are valid. If not then I would suggest that it means that you are not happy with yourself and that the idea of transgenders places you closer to them than you are willing to accept for yourself.
I too as you can see respectfully disagree with your statements. I think sometimes when we don't understand things we tend to condem them. Sometimes we just aren't going to understand sometimes, that however, doesn't remove their validity.
There is an "all or nothing" mentality in the gay community. Either you accept it all or you have to reject it all. Transgienderism if that even a word is not something I think is a gay issue anyway. I look at it like this. These people think they are in the wrong body. Men want to be women then they turn to woman (changed one) and date a man if so are they straight? This is where I think it's more of an identity issue more than a sexuality issue. So if like Charles X says Rupaul is transgender I still stick to my views on the matter. I am an independent thinker and I will not support certain aspect of behavior. Taking hormones is just something i do not subscribe to. And for the record Rupaul never said he was trangendered he always knew he was a man he just liked dressing in women close. He never took hormones. "I believe in men and women and those who choose to date the opposite or the same sex but I do not believe in body mutilation and that is what I think transexualism is.
Stone, I respect your opinion as well as I can. I think that you already knew that you would strike a chord with some people when you posted the comment.
I think that what the people who disagree with you are afraid of is that you don't respect or that you even have hate for the transgendered community. I also think that they want you to understand the the transgendered community must face the same and even more obstacles then gay/bisexual people.
Also, I want you to understand that MOST transgendered have accepted themselves and that's why they go through surgery and have hormone replacement therapy. They are doing what is comfortable and what feels right to them.
And lastly to the other bloggers. This is Stone's blog and his opinions. I don't think that any amount of disagreement is going to change his mind.
Ok... I get it! I can definitely get with that. The body mutilation statement puts it all in perspective. I definitely do not condone sex change operations. Nor do I care for the idea of taking hormones for cosmetic purposes. I don't really have opinions about the people who make those choices. It's their bodies and outside of "Ooooh... that's an ugly woman," I really have nothing to say. I appreciate your bringing clarity to your reasoning and I still think you're HOT!
I still maintain it's dangerously judgemental to condemn someone desiring to change their bodies with hormones and surgeries. People should be free to do whatever they please with their bodies without fear of judgement from their brothers and sisters.
I'm sure people who prefer skinny men may not appreciate the fact that you work out to change what your body would naturally look like. You are changing your body every time you hit the weights.
Now Charles come on! You can not be serious with that last statement.
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